It may not seem like it if you make a pure slugfest out of it, like the 5 Marine top tiers against one WB each and Mihawk helps out in one match which ends before WB beats another top tier, so they proceed to help out there and so forth... but no. Not in the traditional sense- they won with plenty to spare- but it will, in the end, be a case of winning the battle and losing the war. Edward Newgate, famously known as Whitebeard, was one of the greatest known pirates to ever sail the seas of One Piece.Before he made a name for himself and came to be known as the "Strongest Man in the World," Whitebeard was a member of perhaps the most dangerous pirate crew in the world, known as Rocks Pirates. Marineford. However he also had his illness that took a lot away from him. Back when they first clashed, old, ill WB was losing to Akainu, who stepped back to let fodder strike at him instead of striking him in the face or blowing off his limbs. Oh wow for a second I thought you meant 5 WB pirates lol.... Uhh maybe... the way they showed Whitebeard was very weak and was safed from attacks many times by his pirates, I'd say no, the three admirals focusing on them only would probably kill them. I bet Blackbeard even wanted a war between the Marines and the Whitebeard Pirates to happen. - Old Whitebeard was weaker due to being ill and old and Squardo's betrayal etc. But nonetheless he would have lost the War in Marineford anyway, because without him, his troops would have been overwhelmed by the Marine. @keyframes ibDwUVR1CAykturOgqOS5{0%{transform:rotate(0deg)}to{transform:rotate(1turn)}}._3LwT7hgGcSjmJ7ng7drAuq{--sizePx:0;font-size:4px;position:relative;text-indent:-9999em;border-radius:50%;border:4px solid var(--newCommunityTheme-bodyTextAlpha20);border-left-color:var(--newCommunityTheme-body);transform:translateZ(0);animation:ibDwUVR1CAykturOgqOS5 1.1s linear infinite}._3LwT7hgGcSjmJ7ng7drAuq,._3LwT7hgGcSjmJ7ng7drAuq:after{width:var(--sizePx);height:var(--sizePx)}._3LwT7hgGcSjmJ7ng7drAuq:after{border-radius:50%}._3LwT7hgGcSjmJ7ng7drAuq._2qr28EeyPvBWAsPKl-KuWN{margin:0 auto} This very same illness and old age made him unable to dodge Squadro's attack. After the war ended, Jinbe was crucial to bringing Luffy out of a slump that Ace's death put him in. Whitebeard scoffed it off and, saying he had nothing fear, then clashed with Shanks. DISCUSS! Two years ago was able to dodge Ace's attacks while sleeping. If Luffy was the one captured then that means Ace would have gone and rescue Luffy. After one of his subordinates, Ace, was captured and sentenced to death, Whitebeard came to save him and fought against in the Marines at their headquarters, Marineford. The sheer collateral damage they would cause would easily mess up anyone in the way. Back at marineford the Marines were on a video call with the five elders. Even old and dying only Prime AM would stand a chance. Can Team Whitebeard win this thing? Whitebeard would have supported Ace with all of his forces. The Marineford Arc was one of the most legendary arcs in One Piece history, which revolved around Whitebeard. There was a chance to save one, and not the other. "I am only one man with one heart...Call me a demon, call me a monster...but I can't be the strongest forever...!!!" Edward "Whitebeard" Newgate, one of the Four Emperors of the New World, captain of the Whitebeard Pirates, former rival of Gol D. Roger, user of the Tremor-Tremor Fruit, and the current holder of the title 'strongest man in the world,' was a man that nobody with half a brain would intentionally provoke, because the result, as shown with the ruins of Marineford, was nothing less than outright war. Of course maybe Oda just didn't want to show them using the gestures. Five Whitebeards would just about have the island jumping up and down. Neither seemed particularly slowed down by aging, it’s Whitebeard’s illness that was the problem. Doesn’t negatively impact Whitebeard’s character in the least. The three Admirals and the fleet admirals were at marineford while the five elders were at Mary Geoise. A few doubt his strength due to his old age and the number of the Marine forces. Two years later, Jinbe helps out the Straw Hat Pirates fight against Charlotte Linlin, aka Big Mom. ._3-SW6hQX6gXK9G4FM74obr{display:inline-block;vertical-align:text-bottom;width:16px;height:16px;font-size:16px;line-height:16px} He was the strongest person alive at that point in time, but he also met his demise in the Marineford Arc. Not to mention it takes a whole heck of a lot just to take one Whitebeard down. So I say he was at 50% at best. Whitebeard was right. Veins appeared on the old man's forehead, as him and Luffy fixed each other in death glares/gritting teeth contest. 2. Welcome to r/OnePiece, the community for Eiichiro Oda's manga and anime series One Piece. The gorousei, Vegapunk and Kong intervent and kill them. 3-Silvers Rayleigh, 78 years old Marco was certain that even if Squardo was an ally who he had no reason to be suspicious of, even if it was a sneak attack, Whitebeard should have definitely been able to dodge it. In Marineford he frequently tanked attacks when he could have dodged had he been in better condition. During the Summit War, there were reports that Kaido had set sail and was on his way to Marineford. 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In this attack (called “Shima Yurashi”) Whitebeard grabs the air around him, like if it were something that can be easily grabbed, and then pulls it toward him causing a massive earthquake that tilted Marineford and the sea around it in episode 473. .c_dVyWK3BXRxSN3ULLJ_t{border-radius:4px 4px 0 0;height:34px;left:0;position:absolute;right:0;top:0}._1OQL3FCA9BfgI57ghHHgV3{-ms-flex-align:center;align-items:center;display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex;-ms-flex-pack:start;justify-content:flex-start;margin-top:32px}._1OQL3FCA9BfgI57ghHHgV3 ._33jgwegeMTJ-FJaaHMeOjV{border-radius:9001px;height:32px;width:32px}._1OQL3FCA9BfgI57ghHHgV3 ._1wQQNkVR4qNpQCzA19X4B6{height:16px;margin-left:8px;width:200px}._39IvqNe6cqNVXcMFxFWFxx{display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex;margin:12px 0}._39IvqNe6cqNVXcMFxFWFxx ._29TSdL_ZMpyzfQ_bfdcBSc{-ms-flex:1;flex:1}._39IvqNe6cqNVXcMFxFWFxx .JEV9fXVlt_7DgH-zLepBH{height:18px;width:50px}._39IvqNe6cqNVXcMFxFWFxx ._3YCOmnWpGeRBW_Psd5WMPR{height:12px;margin-top:4px;width:60px}._2iO5zt81CSiYhWRF9WylyN{height:18px;margin-bottom:4px}._2iO5zt81CSiYhWRF9WylyN._2E9u5XvlGwlpnzki78vasG{width:230px}._2iO5zt81CSiYhWRF9WylyN.fDElwzn43eJToKzSCkejE{width:100%}._2iO5zt81CSiYhWRF9WylyN._2kNB7LAYYqYdyS85f8pqfi{width:250px}._2iO5zt81CSiYhWRF9WylyN._1XmngqAPKZO_1lDBwcQrR7{width:120px}._3XbVvl-zJDbcDeEdSgxV4_{border-radius:4px;height:32px;margin-top:16px;width:100%}._2hgXdc8jVQaXYAXvnqEyED{animation:_3XkHjK4wMgxtjzC1TvoXrb 1.5s ease infinite;background:linear-gradient(90deg,var(--newCommunityTheme-field),var(--newCommunityTheme-inactive),var(--newCommunityTheme-field));background-size:200%}._1KWSZXqSM_BLhBzkPyJFGR{background-color:var(--newCommunityTheme-widgetColors-sidebarWidgetBackgroundColor);border-radius:4px;padding:12px;position:relative;width:auto} .FIYolDqalszTnjjNfThfT{max-width:256px;white-space:normal;text-align:center} It is used for the 'Marineford Arc' of the storyline, the great war against Whitebeard, which started in issue 550 and ended in issue 580. .LalRrQILNjt65y-p-QlWH{fill:var(--newRedditTheme-actionIcon);height:18px;width:18px}.LalRrQILNjt65y-p-QlWH rect{stroke:var(--newRedditTheme-metaText)}._3J2-xIxxxP9ISzeLWCOUVc{height:18px}.FyLpt0kIWG1bTDWZ8HIL1{margin-top:4px}._2ntJEAiwKXBGvxrJiqxx_2,._1SqBC7PQ5dMOdF0MhPIkA8{height:24px;vertical-align:middle;width:24px}._1SqBC7PQ5dMOdF0MhPIkA8{-ms-flex-align:center;align-items:center;display:-ms-inline-flexbox;display:inline-flex;-ms-flex-direction:row;flex-direction:row;-ms-flex-pack:center;justify-content:center} Whitebeard vs Akainu. Take a second to look at our. Akainu by himself could have killed Whitebeard if it wasn't for plot demanding WB survive until later, as I've shown many times in these debates. /*# sourceMappingURL=https://www.redditstatic.com/desktop2x/chunkCSS/TopicLinksContainer.361933014be843c79476.css.map*/He fought against the Roger Pirates for 3 days and 3 nights. JavaScript is disabled. After Ace is reverted back to how he was a couple months before his execution at Marineford, he knows what will happen and exactly how to fix it. At that time, it felt like the yonko wanted to earn fame by taking down the strongest man alive, Whitebeard. —Whitebeard's response to his status as the "Strongest Man in the World". 8 or 9 could probably do it. This was one of the world's most pivotal events. .ehsOqYO6dxn_Pf9Dzwu37{margin-top:0;overflow:visible}._2pFdCpgBihIaYh9DSMWBIu{height:24px}._2pFdCpgBihIaYh9DSMWBIu.uMPgOFYlCc5uvpa2Lbteu{border-radius:2px}._2pFdCpgBihIaYh9DSMWBIu.uMPgOFYlCc5uvpa2Lbteu:focus,._2pFdCpgBihIaYh9DSMWBIu.uMPgOFYlCc5uvpa2Lbteu:hover{background-color:var(--newRedditTheme-navIconFaded10);outline:none}._38GxRFSqSC-Z2VLi5Xzkjy{color:var(--newCommunityTheme-actionIcon)}._2DO72U0b_6CUw3msKGrnnT{border-top:none;color:var(--newCommunityTheme-metaText);cursor:pointer;padding:8px 16px 8px 8px;text-transform:none}._2DO72U0b_6CUw3msKGrnnT:hover{background-color:#0079d3;border:none;color:var(--newCommunityTheme-body);fill:var(--newCommunityTheme-body)} In adulthood, u… You are using an out of date browser. Press J to jump to the feed. I’d say 75 percent, he was still strong enough to level an island. He didn't or couldn't create that again when he clashed with Shanks, though that might be because Shanks is weaker than Roger. In his prime he could potentially tilt islands without grabbing the air, much like how Blackbeard can potentially create tremors with his voice. Others, who personally met Whitebeard and even retired from piracy just by being before him, think otherwise. The battles between Blackbeard and Akainu vs the strongest man in the world Whitebeard which was really strong. I can't even fully imagine the destruction FIVE Whitebeard's would bring to Marineford. Conversely, when he went to Marineford, Ace was alive. ._3bX7W3J0lU78fp7cayvNxx{max-width:208px;text-align:center} If old Whitebeard can create tsunamis and flip a giant and level an island. While reading the paper Crocodile asks what Luffy is doing (in regards to 3D2Y), to which Daz says Luffy bears a heavy scar and such scars don’t heal quickly. To prevent Whitebeard and his crew's attempt to save their comrade, all of the high ranking Marines (almost one hundred thousand strong), along with the Shichibukai, were called to Marineford to prepare for the war. If you've just set sail with the Straw Hat Pirates, be wary of spoilers on this subreddit! The VAs and the Schichbukai are probably non factors against five Whitebeards. 2009–2010 (Manga), 2010-2011 (Anime) Arc Chronology ← Previous Next → ← Previous anime The Marineford Arc (known as the Paramount War in the translation and the War of the Best in the sub) is the twenty-second story arc in the series, and the fourth in the of the One Piece series, continuing on from. And Oda said Whitebeard went to Marineford to die. Whitebeard has lost his hair, and needs IV medication, and has a very serious illness. Even Whitebeard on life support could dodge Ace in his sleep, literally, when Ace was already strong enough to fight for 5 … 5 Whitebeards vs. Sengoku, Akainu, Aokiji, Kizaru, Garp and the other VA's, and Mihawk and the other Shichibukai? Going against Kaido later, years after Oden was dead, would have been a Pyrrhic victory. IMO, Old Whitebeard is around 60-70% of his strength compared to his prime. ._3Im6OD67aKo33nql4FpSp_{border:1px solid var(--newCommunityTheme-widgetColors-sidebarWidgetBorderColor);border-radius:5px 5px 4px 4px;overflow:visible;word-wrap:break-word;background-color:var(--newCommunityTheme-body);padding:12px}.lnK0-OzG7nLFydTWuXGcY{font-size:10px;font-weight:700;letter-spacing:.5px;line-height:12px;text-transform:uppercase;padding-bottom:4px;color:var(--newCommunityTheme-navIcon)} Edward Newgate, better known by his epithet "Whitebeard", was the captain of the Whitebeard Pirates and considered to be the most powerful of the Four Emperors ruling over the New World (the second half of the Grand Line), and the only person to have ever battled the Pirate King to a draw. He's based off of a bar owner Oda knew who died of cancer. >> Anonymous 12/02/20(Wed)16:59:09 No. I don't think it will be as simple as each Whitebeard fighting top tier, the problem is that the marines have no solution for the massive collateral damage he will be causing all over the field. Sep 20, 2011 #2 Everyone saw the stats of what Whitebeard went through after he died. They can demolish anyone but the admirals with the first couple of quakes each. 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The arc spanned 33 episodes and ran from episode 457 to 489. The Marineford Arc is the twenty-second story arc in the series, and the fourth in the Summit War Saga of the One Piece manga. However, their main goal is still to save Ace. Aokiji has frozen the battlefield, but instead of pirates, a total of 5 old and sick WB's are ready to fight. Even children know of Whitebeard's raw strength and sing a playground song about him. He just didn't count on his father and brother not believing him, and successfully destroying everything they once had and could have had. Whitebeard beats Akainu, Aokiji, Kizaru, Garp, Sengoku, high difficulty but I wonder if they would have enough stamina left over to beat a not worn out Mihawk and Doflamingo? If we look at a peer like Garp who said his cannonballs don't fly "half as fast as they used to", and say that wasn't an exaggeration or just a phrase, then Whitebeard has lost at least 50% of his strength. ... Marineford is a sort of Pyrrhic victory for the Marines. I think his power lied in more than we can really number-crunch in the Battledome, I can't really explain it. The man could probably destroy multiple islands at once. His sickness heavily weakened him, still so strong. If you want discussion, please sort the subreddit by New. The problem is not the age but the sickness so I assume the deference is huge. And potentially had Flowing Haki: Destruction in his prime, but the two are indistinguishable right now. It may not display this or other websites correctly. 1. However, 22 years had passed since the Pirate King's death a… It focuses on the battle between the Whitebeard Pirates and the Marines. ._2cHgYGbfV9EZMSThqLt2tx{margin-bottom:16px;border-radius:4px}._3Q7WCNdCi77r0_CKPoDSFY{width:75%;height:24px}._2wgLWvNKnhoJX3DUVT_3F-,._3Q7WCNdCi77r0_CKPoDSFY{background:var(--newCommunityTheme-field);background-size:200%;margin-bottom:16px;border-radius:4px}._2wgLWvNKnhoJX3DUVT_3F-{width:100%;height:46px} You must log in or register to reply here. Portugas D. Ann's and Monkey D. Luffy's relationship as fiancés had been a secret only Sabo, Dadan and her bandits, Garp, Makino and Whitebeard knew about it. Come on, you know that FIVE WB's would take down Marineford, wouldn't they? Jinbe, however, caused an outrage in the headquarters in his refusal to cooperate, and was transferred to Impel Down. Imagine what he could in his prime and that's without haki. He has nowhere near that level of stamina now, especially when he's off life support. Once he made it to Marineford he proceeded to actively fight against the Marines in an attempt to save Ace and assist Whitebeard. When Ace's execution was happening, Whitebeard was extremely enraged, and waged a war against all of Marineford(Marine headquarters) along with his New World allies. If Whitebeard entered the MHA verse and his devil fruit power was instead a ... As for how strong, probably the strongest in the verse. The Whitebeard Pirates came to Marineford to save Ace from being executed. So they're all held-up and then the Warlords, VAs, ect.. help the top tier marines their fights. I mean, can you imagine a Whitebeard even giving another Whitebeard partial help in a fight? 2-Monkey D. Garp, 78 years old Both Sengoku and Garp were four to five years older than Whitebeard during Marineford. He was known as the "Strongest Man in the World" even before Gol D. Roger's death, and this reputation made him the most feared and respected person in the world. Whitebeard is … He could use Armament Haki Hardening to stab through Aokiji, but never displayed Flowing Haki like he showed against Roger in his prime. Is there really a one piece in the manga one piece? I mean who is going to stand up against ten quake punches at once? For the rest of the war Crocodile helps the Whitebeard Pirates. Even Whitebeard on life support could dodge Ace in his sleep, literally, when Ace was already strong enough to fight for 5 days with Jinbe. Once Ace's saved, or if he's killed before he can be saved, then their goal is to destroy Marineford. Most One Piece fans agreed that this arc is the best. The attack is insanely destructive, but what impressed me the most is the way he looks while making the attack. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. In my opinion Old one is bout 50% since he can't really use haki and prime, well, he was able to go head on with Pirate King so he had to be really strong. Whitebeard tried to intimidate him by twirling his naginata over his head, and slammed it once again on the ship. 1 Old Whitebeard was beaten by PIS and CIS, serving the purpose of the plot. 212361988. 5 isn't enough. 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